His Y-DNA: Out of Africa

We had our DNA analyzed by The Genographic Project through National Geographic.  This is the first post about His results.

Here is some information from The Genographic Project web site:  (Bold is our addition.)

“Since its launch in 2005, National Geographic’s Genographic Project has used advanced DNA analysis and worked with indigenous communities to help answer fundamental questions about where humans originated and how we came to populate the Earth. Now, cutting-edge technology is enabling us to shine a powerful new light on our collective past. By participating in the latest phase of this real-time scientific project, you can learn more about yourself than you ever thought possible.
Your results give you an unprecedented view of your lineage. You will discover the migration paths your ancient ancestors followed hundreds and even thousands of years ago.
Included in the 300,000 markers we test for is a subset that scientists have recently determined to be from our hominin cousins, the Neanderthals, who split from our lineage around 500,000 years ago.
As modern humans were first migrating out of Africa more than 60,000 years ago, Neanderthals were still alive and well in Europe and Asia. It seems that our ancestors met, leaving a small genetic trace of these ancient relatives in our DNA. With Geno 2.0 Next Generation, you will learn if you have any Neanderthal DNA in your genome.

This post (His DNA Test Results) gives a brief look at His DNA.  We found that he has Neanderthal genes (about 1.5%) and is 55% Eastern European.

His basic ancestral migration pattern based on his various Y chromosome haplogroups is:  (years ago approximate)
– P305  central Africa 80,000+ ya
– M168  northeastern Africa c 70,000 ya
– P143  Middle East/Fertile Crescent region c 60,000 ya
– M429  eventually southeast Europe c 40,000 ya

This data shows that His male ancestors moved out of the African continent about 60,000 years ago and then moved into Europe about 40,000 years ago.  They interacted with the Neanderthals at some point after moving toward/into Europe.  (Neanderthals became extinct about 30,000 years ago.)

John Y tree

 

His DNA Test Results

Well John is 1.5% Neanderthal!!  He is more Neanderthal than the “average” person they sampled. I sure hope my results show less than that!

john-neaderthal

We took a DNA test through Ancestry.com a few years ago.  This year we ordered the National Geographic DNA test.  They look at different things – Nat Geo isn’t looking to connect us with relatives.  It is a more global look at gene migration through the years.  Where did most of your tidbits come from is their focus.

The left picture is from Ancestry.com.  He is 99% European.  The right picture is from National Geographic.  It states he is 100% European.  The highlighted areas look similar.  The percentages are hard to compare since their focus is different.  If people have been migrating around the European continent for the last 100,000 years, it makes sense you might see variations here.

John’s “Deep” ancestry shows that his haplogroups are pretty uncommon in the samples that National Geographic has collected.  Curious to learn more about these results.

john-deep-ancestry

 

Marriage Record – John Hill and Eva Huff

This is one of the documents I needed to submit with my mother-in-law’s application to DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution).  John A. Hill and Eva Huff are His 2x-Great-Grandparents.

If you look closely at record #368, you will notice that John A. Hill’s name is Jno Huff in the second part of the document.  Now I know that Jno can mean John, but it usually means Jonathan.  (I mean, really, how hard would it be to write John vs Jno??)  His last name gets changed in the process as well – Hill becomes Huff.

Another inconsistency is in the name of the wife – Eva Huff becomes Eva Hough.

Thankfully, I have death certificates for both John and Eva.  They name each other as spouse.  Eva’s death certificate names her father as Townsend B. Huff.  I’m hopeful that DAR will accept this!  I can hear them now – but how do you know this Eva Hough is the same Eva Huff you are related to???

No wonder I had such a hard time finding this using search engines!!  Remember that alternate spellings have an interesting way of showing up – even in a single document.

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Genealogy Fun – Three Degrees of Separation

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun — Three Degrees of Separation idea by Randy Seaver at Geneamusings.com

This is actually my Sunday Afternoon Genealogy Fun!  This was an easy activity to determine how far back in time can you go with three degrees of separation.  That means “you knew an ancestor, who knew another ancestor, who knew another ancestor.”

So for Her:

– She met her maternal great-grandfather Harry Cecil Fetherkile (1884-1980) in the early 70’s.  Her family would travel most summers and visit Grandpa Fetherkile until his death.
– Grandpa F. lived in the same small Iowa town his entire life and knew his paternal grandfather Adam Henry Fetherkile (1812-1896) who moved to this same town in the early 1850’s.  Both grandfathers are buried in the Urbana Cemetery along with her maternal grandmother. 

Her maternal line goes back to 1812.

– She remembers meeting her paternal great-grandmother Mary Harriet (Hallie) Squires Marshall Gott Burton (1891-1974) in the late 60’s.  Grandma Burton also lived in Iowa about 3 hours drive from her Fetherkile relatives.  Mom and Dad met in California.
– Grandma B. had to have known her maternal grandmother Elizabeth Ruth Cross McCann (1823-1912) since we have a photo of Grandma McCann with Grandma B’s younger sisters.  Dad remembers Aunt Ruth who is buried just a few miles from us.

Her paternal line goes back to 1823.

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So for Him:

– He met his maternal great-grandmother Lurena Dell (Lulu) Hill Farley (1881-1965) at birth!
– Grandma F. was born and raised in the same Nebraska town as her maternal grandparents Townsend Berkley Huff (1830-1904) and Nancy Talbert Huff (1834-1912).  

His maternal line goes back to 1830.

– His paternal line is not able to go to the third “separation”.  He met his paternal grandfather at birth and knows that he was an immigrant in 1907.  He never returned to his native country and we do not have names for any ancestors except his father at this time.  Hopefully soon!

US Presidents – How Many in a Lifetime??

Idea for this post courtesy of GeneaMusings Saturday Night Genealogy Fun.

“This week’s Genealogy Fun challenge is very timely since a new president was inaugurated yesterday. Here are the answers to the question – how many presidents have served during my lifetime, my parents and grandparents and how many generations back do I have to go to cover all 45 U.S. presidents?”

I put my data into a spreadsheet to answer the questions.  See spreadsheet below.

Her Lifetime: 11 (since Kennedy)
Mom and Dad: 14 (since FD Roosevelt)
Grandparents: 13 (Taft – Carter)
14 (Wilson – GHW Bush)
11  (Taft – Nixon)
17  (T Roosevelt – Clinton)

His Lifetime: 12 (since Eisenhower)
Mom: 15 (since Hoover)
Dad: 14 (Hoover – Obama)
Grandparents: 17 (Harrison-Carter)
15 (Cleveland-Ford)
11 (T Roosevelt-L Johnson)
16 (Taft – Clinton)

Great-Grandparents: Range from 9 – 19 Presidents and 12-18 Presidents
2x Great-Grandparents: Range from 14 – 21 Presidents and 17-22 Presidents
3x Great-Grandparents: Range from 13 – 25 Presidents and 8-24 Presidents
The “winning” relative is Her 3x Great Grandfather Ole Simonson (1816-1915) at living through 25 US Presidents!!

4x Great-Grandparents: Range from 8 – 21 Presidents and 8-18 Presidents
This is the first generation to reach Washington for both of us.  She has 15 ancestors who were alive during Washington’s Presidency and He has 4!)

GP = Grandfather   GM = Grandmother    Number indicates how many greats.  In the following spreadsheet, letters after indicate first letter of last name, in order of my Ahnentafel Report generated by Family Tree Maker.  I only included ancestors who lived part/all of their life in the US and I had dates of birth and death.  If it was a transition year, I used birth, death, inaugurations dates to determine if they lived during a particular President’s term.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Citing Sources: Remember Your Cousin in Santa Fe

Thank you for the reminder about citing sources!  Sharing this for all to remember proper format isn’t what’s important – make it easier for others to find it.

Taken from: Genealogy Tip of the Day by Michael John Neill

Remember Your Cousin in Santa Fe

Citing sources frustrates some researchers. They worry about format, style, and the appropriate placement of punctuation.

cousin-sant-fe

Don’t fret over such things. As we will see your concern should be over your cousin in Santa Fe.

If you put a date of an event in your genealogical database, include the reason. It could be

  • death certificate for John Q. Rampley in the Carthage, Hancock County, Illinois, courthouse
  • birth certificate for Susanna Rucker in the Orange County, Virginia, courthouse
  • family bible in possession of my aunt, Mrs. Donna Askme Questions
  • personal memory–he died after I graduated high school
  • personal memory–they married before we moved to Idaho

Purists will frown at these citations. Let the the frown lines be their own reward. Are there a few minor details missing? Yes. Is it better than no citation at all? Yes. Those who quibble over the precise comma placement will roll their eyes. Let them roll their eyes til their sockets wear out.

Your cousin from Santa Fe who encounters your file will be glad you went to the trouble.

Worry about your cousin in Santa Fe. The purists and the quibblers will always be with us and are difficult to please. Leave them to their frowning and eye rolling. Your cousin in Santa Fe will find your citations a cool breeze refreshing their research frustration.

Remember your cousin in Santa Fe.

Taylor and Fillmore not Related

Using my tree (which has about 20,000 people), it appears that Presidents Zachary Taylor and Millard Fillmore are not related.  Their lines don’t intersect until my great-great-grandparent Katherine Burrell.  They are 5th cousin 3x removed of husband of 2nd cousin 2x removed.  

That doesn’t mean they aren’t related through some other branches that I’ve not researched, but I’m satisfied with this result for today!  It sure would have made an interesting find if they were related!!

Happy Saturday everyone!