Comparing DNA Results

Her National Geographic DNA results are finally in!

She is 1.5% Neanderthal.  This was one of the aspects we were most curious about.  He is also 1.5% so we are a happy “slightly more Neanderthal than average” household.

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Below is a chart showing how the DNA results look when compared to each other.  We submitted our saliva samples to Ancestry.com and National Geographic.  We also submitted our Ancestry.com data to DNA.land (they use the data to determine your information based on their logarithm)

The only constant is that I am of 100% European descent.  This is supported by family history data collected and visual appearance.  No surprise here!  The DNA.land graphic below shows the Ambiguous category as greenish.

If you consider where they are making the distinction between categories, I have similar results across the board.  I am mostly Northern European with a smattering of Southern European thrown in.

My maternal grandfather was supposedly of Polish descent so I should be about 25% Eastern European.  The DNA results all have at least 25% for the category which would include this area of Europe.  My paternal grandmother’s parents were from Sweden and Norway.  I should have about 25% Scandinavia.  Again, depending on how you divide the categories, I have about this percent for these.

The only surprise is the Jewish and Ambiguous categories.  Ambiguous I get – they can’t narrow it down based on the data they use.  Makes sense.  Jewish ranges from 0% with Ancestry.com to 1.3% using DNA.land to 5% using National Geographic.  Overall, not much input.  Since we know so little about my maternal grandfather, we assumed this category would be higher – we figured he was hiding something.  He claimed to be of Polish descent so we thought it might be that he was Jewish.  Nope, just a philanderer.

 

 

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun – A Family’s Increase

Idea courtesy of Genea-Musings:

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun — A Family’s Increase

Hey genea-folks, it’s Saturday Night again, time for more Genealogy Fun!

Your mission this week, should you decide to accept it, is to:

1) Pick one of your sets of great-grandparents – if possible, the one with the most descendants.

2) Create a descendants list for those great-grandparents either by hand or in your software program.

3) Tell us how many descendants, living or dead, are in each generation from those great-grandparents.

4) How many are still living? Of those, how many have you met and exchanged family information with? Are there any that you should make contact with ASAP? Please don’t use last names of living people for this – respect their privacy.

5) Write about it in your own blog post, in comments to this post, or in comments or a Note on Facebook.

1) So I tweaked it a little and did all my great-grandparents and hubby’s maternal great-grandparents and his paternal grandparents:

Harry Fetherkile (1884-1980) and Lottie Smith (1887-1926)
William Gott (1880-1944) and Mary Squires (1891-1974) – I only included the issue from this relationship, not their other marriages and children.
August Peterson (1868-1950) and Anna Simonson (1880-1963)
John Vernak ?? and Mary ?? Not sure about these names – multiple posts issues!

Christian Petersen (1874-1953) and Jennie Mattson (1878-1925)
Alfred Farley (1874-1962) and Lurena Hill (1881-1965)
Marko Matulic (1890-1979) and Marga Gospodnetic (1896-1974)

2) I made a Descendants List report in Family Tree 2014.1.  Then I counted for each generation.  I made a spreadsheet using Google Sheets to keep track of the info.

3) Their descendants, that I am aware of, by generation:

4) So the increase is at least 14 persons and up to 61 for each line, and probably more.  There are some who may have reproduced since the last family update.  There are branches, because of location and drama, that are incomplete.

Of the 120ish descendants for my side, 94 are still alive!!  I have met/known 95 of the descendants from my great-grandparents.  Most of those I have not met live in another area of the country and are of a later generation.  My Vernak line is also questionable – I’ll leave the details to a future post!

On hubby’s side, there are about 126 descendants with 109 still alive.  He has met/known 77 of his great-grandparents/grandparents descendants.  His paternal grandparents were immigrants and we, at this time, don’t know how many siblings they had, how many descendants are still living in Croatia.  We know of one small incomplete branch but that is it.

Interesting exercise – I realize I need to reach out to living relatives.

 

Marriage Record – John Hill and Eva Huff

This is one of the documents I needed to submit with my mother-in-law’s application to DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution).  John A. Hill and Eva Huff are His 2x-Great-Grandparents.

If you look closely at record #368, you will notice that John A. Hill’s name is Jno Huff in the second part of the document.  Now I know that Jno can mean John, but it usually means Jonathan.  (I mean, really, how hard would it be to write John vs Jno??)  His last name gets changed in the process as well – Hill becomes Huff.

Another inconsistency is in the name of the wife – Eva Huff becomes Eva Hough.

Thankfully, I have death certificates for both John and Eva.  They name each other as spouse.  Eva’s death certificate names her father as Townsend B. Huff.  I’m hopeful that DAR will accept this!  I can hear them now – but how do you know this Eva Hough is the same Eva Huff you are related to???

No wonder I had such a hard time finding this using search engines!!  Remember that alternate spellings have an interesting way of showing up – even in a single document.

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Genealogy Fun – Three Degrees of Separation

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun — Three Degrees of Separation idea by Randy Seaver at Geneamusings.com

This is actually my Sunday Afternoon Genealogy Fun!  This was an easy activity to determine how far back in time can you go with three degrees of separation.  That means “you knew an ancestor, who knew another ancestor, who knew another ancestor.”

So for Her:

– She met her maternal great-grandfather Harry Cecil Fetherkile (1884-1980) in the early 70’s.  Her family would travel most summers and visit Grandpa Fetherkile until his death.
– Grandpa F. lived in the same small Iowa town his entire life and knew his paternal grandfather Adam Henry Fetherkile (1812-1896) who moved to this same town in the early 1850’s.  Both grandfathers are buried in the Urbana Cemetery along with her maternal grandmother. 

Her maternal line goes back to 1812.

– She remembers meeting her paternal great-grandmother Mary Harriet (Hallie) Squires Marshall Gott Burton (1891-1974) in the late 60’s.  Grandma Burton also lived in Iowa about 3 hours drive from her Fetherkile relatives.  Mom and Dad met in California.
– Grandma B. had to have known her maternal grandmother Elizabeth Ruth Cross McCann (1823-1912) since we have a photo of Grandma McCann with Grandma B’s younger sisters.  Dad remembers Aunt Ruth who is buried just a few miles from us.

Her paternal line goes back to 1823.

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So for Him:

– He met his maternal great-grandmother Lurena Dell (Lulu) Hill Farley (1881-1965) at birth!
– Grandma F. was born and raised in the same Nebraska town as her maternal grandparents Townsend Berkley Huff (1830-1904) and Nancy Talbert Huff (1834-1912).  

His maternal line goes back to 1830.

– His paternal line is not able to go to the third “separation”.  He met his paternal grandfather at birth and knows that he was an immigrant in 1907.  He never returned to his native country and we do not have names for any ancestors except his father at this time.  Hopefully soon!

US Presidents – How Many in a Lifetime??

Idea for this post courtesy of GeneaMusings Saturday Night Genealogy Fun.

“This week’s Genealogy Fun challenge is very timely since a new president was inaugurated yesterday. Here are the answers to the question – how many presidents have served during my lifetime, my parents and grandparents and how many generations back do I have to go to cover all 45 U.S. presidents?”

I put my data into a spreadsheet to answer the questions.  See spreadsheet below.

Her Lifetime: 11 (since Kennedy)                        His Lifetime: 12 (since Eisenhower)

Mom and Dad: 14 (since FD Roosevelt)                      Mom: 15 (since Hoover)
Dad: 14 (Hoover – Obama)

Grandparents: 13 (Taft – Carter)                                  Grandparents: 17 (Harrison-Carter)
14 (Wilson – GHW Bush)                                                15 (Cleveland-Ford)
11  (Taft – Nixon)                                                             11 (T Roosevelt-L Johnson)
17  (T Roosevelt – Clinton)                                             16 (Taft – Clinton)

 

Great-Grandparents: Range from 9 – 19 Presidents          and         12-18 Presidents

2x Great-Grandparents: Range from 14 – 21 Presidents    and        17-22 Presidents

3x Great-Grandparents: Range from 13 – 25 Presidents     and       8-24 Presidents

4x Great-Grandparents: Range from 8 – 21 Presidents      and        8-18 Presidents

This is the first generation to reach Washington for both of us.  She has 15 ancestors who were alive during Washington’s Presidency and He has 4!)

GP = Grandfather   GM = Grandmother    Number indicates how many greats.  Letters after indicate first letter of last name, in order of my Ahnentafel Report generated by Family Tree Maker.  I only included ancestors who lived part/all of their life in the US and I had dates of birth and death.  If it was a transition year, I used birth, death, inaugurations dates to determine if they lived during a particular President’s term.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Citing Sources: Remember Your Cousin in Santa Fe

Thank you for the reminder about citing sources!  Sharing this for all to remember proper format isn’t what’s important – make it easier for others to find it.

Taken from: Genealogy Tip of the Day by Michael John Neill

Remember Your Cousin in Santa Fe

Citing sources frustrates some researchers. They worry about format, style, and the appropriate placement of punctuation.

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Don’t fret over such things. As we will see your concern should be over your cousin in Santa Fe.

If you put a date of an event in your genealogical database, include the reason. It could be

  • death certificate for John Q. Rampley in the Carthage, Hancock County, Illinois, courthouse
  • birth certificate for Susanna Rucker in the Orange County, Virginia, courthouse
  • family bible in possession of my aunt, Mrs. Donna Askme Questions
  • personal memory–he died after I graduated high school
  • personal memory–they married before we moved to Idaho

Purists will frown at these citations. Let the the frown lines be their own reward. Are there a few minor details missing? Yes. Is it better than no citation at all? Yes. Those who quibble over the precise comma placement will roll their eyes. Let them roll their eyes til their sockets wear out.

Your cousin from Santa Fe who encounters your file will be glad you went to the trouble.

Worry about your cousin in Santa Fe. The purists and the quibblers will always be with us and are difficult to please. Leave them to their frowning and eye rolling. Your cousin in Santa Fe will find your citations a cool breeze refreshing their research frustration.

Remember your cousin in Santa Fe.

Taylor and Fillmore not Related

Using my tree (which has about 20,000 people), it appears that Presidents Zachary Taylor and Millard Fillmore are not related.  Their lines don’t intersect until my great-great-grandparent Katherine Burrell.  They are 5th cousin 3x removed of husband of 2nd cousin 2x removed.  

That doesn’t mean they aren’t related through some other branches that I’ve not researched, but I’m satisfied with this result for today!  It sure would have made an interesting find if they were related!!

Happy Saturday everyone!